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#31October 27th, 2009 · 07:51 PM
32 threads
158 posts
United States of America
lyrics review
needs love, some serious love.
#32October 27th, 2009 · 09:15 PM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
Im new to this place as a member but Im been checking it out for a few months.Checking out your profile I find it absurd for you to ask for Lyric reviews when you don't even have out of your 122 post one audio post reviewed..So how is it that your ask for love when you don't give any,kinda selfish in my opinion.Hey but that's just me don't take my word for it.Anyways great way for me to start dont you think(lol),but it seems this site is more about controversy and conflict than participation and teamwork.
#33October 27th, 2009 · 10:16 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
shes posted in lyrics review thousands of times. what are you talking about?

do you mean audio review? lyrics review and audio review are two seperate things. you dont need to upload music if you dont have any but if you have lyrics and like to review lyrics then thats what the lyrics review is for...which she is involved in
#34October 27th, 2009 · 10:32 PM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,399 posts
United Kingdom
Ultravoz wrote…
Im new to this place as a member but Im been checking it out for a few months.Checking out your profile I find it absurd for you to ask for Lyric reviews when you don't even have out of your 122 post one audio post reviewed..So how is it that your ask for love when you don't give any,kinda selfish in my opinion.Hey but that's just me don't take my word for it.Anyways great way for me to start dont you think(lol),but it seems this site is more about controversy and conflict than participation and teamwork.

LOL you only put up one Thread and your giving Fantasy, one of the most talented lyricists on the AMP a hard time. If you was an active member you would probably know that.

I've collaborated with Fantasy and written two songs from her lyrics, she is very much respected here. You on the other hand have started on wrong foot, you have no right to say what you have said, furthermore you have just made yourself look like an ASS.

And she is right, Lyrics don't get reviewed enough, again if you was that active on the AMP you would now that too. It's certainly nothing to do with Controversy & Conflict. Perhaps you may learn something from this, never 'ASSUME' because you make an 'ASS out of U and ME'

BACK ME UP HERE AMPERS!!!!!
#35October 27th, 2009 · 10:49 PM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
I guess your both are missing the point or most be idiots...She brings up a point good but valid as it seems lacks honesty and seems univision on her part.Do you guys really think she wrote that for lyricist,I'm sure her intent is to include all participation.As musicians aren't you looking for valuable critiques?Well she's made none is my point as far as audio reviews goes.Do you guys understand?As far as the site I can start in any foot I want as long as I'm not being disrespectful and Im not ,Im just saying it as it is..So say what you will ,it is great that she collaborated with you Den yet she hasn't reviewed any of your work.Humbleness is a great virtue Den but being selfish and self centered is another issue.Kun what are you 10?Get a grip on you emotions kid this is just talk..

Do you really need help from the amp comunitty to validate you point?I stand alone and will still make my point!
#36October 27th, 2009 · 11:24 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
Denis wrote…
Ultravoz wrote…
Im new to this place as a member but Im been checking it out for a few months.Checking out your profile I find it absurd for you to ask for Lyric reviews when you don't even have out of your 122 post one audio post reviewed..So how is it that your ask for love when you don't give any,kinda selfish in my opinion.Hey but that's just me don't take my word for it.Anyways great way for me to start dont you think(lol),but it seems this site is more about controversy and conflict than participation and teamwork.

LOL you only put up one Thread and your giving Fantasy, one of the most talented lyricists on the AMP a hard time. If you was an active member you would probably know that.

I've collaborated with Fantasy and written two songs from her lyrics, she is very much respected here. You on the other hand have started on wrong foot, you have no right to say what you have said, furthermore you have just made yourself look like an ASS.

And she is right, Lyrics don't get reviewed enough, again if you was that active on the AMP you would now that too. It's certainly nothing to do with Controversy & Conflict. Perhaps you may learn something from this, never 'ASSUME' because you make an 'ASS out of U and ME'

BACK ME UP HERE AMPERS!!!!!

I couldnt agree with you more Denis!!
And what do you mean "Are you 10? Get a grip kid. Control your emotions!" Your the one talking about being humble and all this crap, and now your insulting me because I replied to your absurd comment?!? I just stated that maybe you misunderstood what we were all about at BandAMP.....if lyrics are her thing, then thats her thing. She hasn't uploaded any music so she is not REQUIRED to review anything in the Audio Review. if lyrics are her thing, then thats her thing. Who are you to come in here and start telling people what to do?
#37October 27th, 2009 · 11:25 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
Ultravoz wrote…
Im new to this place as a member but Im been checking it out for a few months.Checking out your profile I find it absurd for you to ask for Lyric reviews when you don't even have out of your 122 post one audio post reviewed..So how is it that your ask for love when you don't give any,kinda selfish in my opinion.Hey but that's just me don't take my word for it.Anyways great way for me to start dont you think(lol),but it seems this site is more about controversy and conflict than participation and teamwork.

I dont know how much we can stress this....Lyric Reviews and Audio Reviews are two seperate things. Your mixing apples and oranges here.

Ultravoz wrote…
I guess your both are missing the point or most be idiots...She brings up a point good but valid as it seems lacks honesty and seems univision on her part.Do you guys really think she wrote that for lyricist,I'm sure her intent is to include all participation.As musicians aren't you looking for valuable critiques?Well she's made none is my point as far as audio reviews goes.Do you guys understand?As far as the site I can start in any foot I want as long as I'm not being disrespectful and Im not ,Im just saying it as it is..So say what you will ,it is great that she collaborated with you Den yet she hasn't reviewed any of your work.Humbleness is a great virtue Den but being selfish and self centered is another issue.Kun what are you 10?Get a grip on you emotions kid this is just talk..

Do you really need help from the amp comunitty to validate you point?I stand alone and will still make my point!

And yes your being very disrespectful...you called us idiots, called me 10, and are giving heavy critiquing to Fantasy who has done nothing wrong. Trying to get people to review different things is something we do here on the AMP to help the community grow....
#38October 27th, 2009 · 11:32 PM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
Kun I would suggest you take a break, breath and read what I wrote as none of the things your mentioning are what Im talking about.Your floating in anger and haven't taken a chance to read my point.I hear what your saying but I dont agree with you nor Denis, you on the on the hand haven't even really understood what Im talking about.Sorry cant help your ignorance little one...Back up and read then get back to me.
#39October 28th, 2009 · 12:32 AM
106 threads / 63 songs
204 posts
Canada
I'll step aside from this little talk and try and approach the subject supposedly addressed in this thread. Personally I'm a big fan of the lyrics reviews and when I'm bored often head there and try play around with posts and build a song out of them but it's a lot harder to post comments on those threads without being critical (and often insensitive). If you want my honest opinion (and if you don't you may as well stop reading here), a lot of the lyrics posted here are too personal (and not the least bit subtle) for honest, sensitive criticism. If you want more reviews, write something that lends itself to being reviewed. If I can be assured that I won't offend you personally by attacking your work I'll be more likely to say something which, while likely critical, might actually be useful. Either that or state openly that you want to be torn apart by your critics, and stress it with passionate lyricism (or preferably complete lucidity).

I understand I wasn't directly asked for my opinion but I like the lyrics review and want to see it thrive too. Well there you have it anyways.
#40October 28th, 2009 · 12:32 AM
32 threads
158 posts
United States of America
WOW!
Well hot damn!

Denis and TheKunadiun: Thank you so much for having my back. You guys are the best!

And as for you
Ultravoz:

I am a lyricist. That is what I do. The reason I posted this post in the pit was simply to state that the lyric review needed so attention. I have noticed that songs in the review have only been getting 1 or 2 comments at the most, and some none at all. That was the reason for this post.

I was not only trying to represent myself but other lyricists that post in that forum.  I am in no way "selfish and selfcentered."  I work with a lot of Bandamp members.


In case you dont understand things about BandAmp let me clear them up just a tad bit:

Here at Bandamp we have a collection of different musicians some are talented instrumentally and some are talented lyrically, others are here to offer help in recording, getting started and some are here for sharing knowledge to newcomers. We love to collaborate whether it be through bandamp or by email. We learn from each other.

Some Bandamp members stick to audio, some stick to lyrics, depending on where they are at with thier music or whether its thier personal prefrence. The Pit is the section where we all kind of come together to comment, ask questions...etc. Just so you know.

Denis and I have worked on our collabs through email. He has sent me a lot of his work that way. I email him back as often as I can on his work. I am currently working on one of his songs right now. Its easier for me to download his songs from my email that to wait for them to buffer on here.. Not that I should even have to explain myself on that. Not all collaboration and hearing others work is done on bandamp. Denis even has his own website!

So to conclude, the reason I dont really post in the "audio review" is because I am more on the writer side of things. I work more with words than I do with chords and riffs if you will. So I focas my attention in the lyric review rather than the audio. And as a member of the amp I like to represent my fellow lyric writers.

I have been a member of this site for over 3 years. I had a different screen name before this one. You haven't been here that long, so clearly you dont know how things work around here. If you want anyone to  listen or comment or any kind help from other Ampers at all than I suggest that you start getting on the "right foot" because nobody will want to work with someone who is on the "wrong foot" all the time. If you had posted more on this site than I have then maybe you would have a little ground to stand on however, seeing as how you havent, then you have absolutley no room to talk at all.

So I hope that you get on the "right foot". Im sure that you are talented or have some sort of musical ability or else you wouldnt be here.. Dont spoil your talent and ability with your pigheaded-ness.  Maybe turn all this anger into a song and post it! Thats an idea for ya! I will even comment on it too.


You have about 119 posts and 30 threads before you have the right to say anything about me and my posts.

Oh yeah and Welcome to Bandamp!

Thanks again Denis and TheKunadiun!

*
Sarah White
#41October 28th, 2009 · 12:34 AM
32 threads
158 posts
United States of America
DTF
I totally understand your view point! Thanks for the comment. Some are personal but I think that if people didnt want them to be reviewed then they wouldnt even post them in the first place.

-Sarah
#42October 28th, 2009 · 12:44 AM
106 threads / 63 songs
204 posts
Canada
That's a point I call into question. While I'm sure people wouldn't post things here if they didn't want people to see them I don't know how many contributors really want both the negative and positive aspects of review.
#43October 28th, 2009 · 01:04 AM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
Tx for the welcome ..As far as I know Im nor here for the clickeness you guys have ,there no right way to make an opinion were you accommodate everyone so as a long as Im in no offense to anyone's character Im with a clear consciences.Anyways your still getting of tangent talking about me and newbi and not knowing the amp way.I can spin circles around most musicians here and have no need to prove it.Im here because another well known member recommended me to check it out and I did..Theres a lot of potential but theres a lot of clickiness and backwood thinking shit too and that sucks..Anyways to they point Ill quote your own words.. 
On your own words:
So to conclude, the reason I dont really post in the "audio review"

Thank you ,I rest my case everything else has nothing to do with what I brought up.If you cant understand my point still then you and I speak to different english languages

Dont waist your time on this anymore..
 

You guys seem to thrive in making people unwelcome when you don't agree, to bad because Im staying so deal with it!
#44October 28th, 2009 · 01:44 AM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
I had lots to say that I had all wrote out, but I decided not to post it because I really cant take this anymore.

Good day and good bye mr ultravoz
#45October 28th, 2009 · 03:47 AM
76 threads / 5 songs
529 posts
Cook Islands
For all of you:

Don't let one person's opinion get you all fired up.
Isn't worth it.

Now relax.
#46October 28th, 2009 · 04:03 AM
32 threads
158 posts
United States of America
Thanks
Thanks Meow
I think your right

inhale........

exhale.......


much better!
#47October 28th, 2009 · 05:42 AM
24 threads
166 posts
United States of America
Have no fear big daddy sas is here!!
Look man.. I'm with kun and dennis on this one!!!! I'm not sure where you get off comming around and disrespecting one of the most hard working and respected (not to mention talented) members. On the amp!!!!

And as far as you saying you can spin circles around quote "any musician here" hahaha first off you have done nothing to prove that fact.... If you are so great please oh please great one enlighten us of your magnificence!!!!

Don't complain about everyone hassling you, your the one who started it.. Comming in here acting a fool trying to flame the loverly ms.white!! You little prick!! And you saying that shit about this forum being more controversy than teamwork... We work like any other family, we have our quarls at times but we also have each others backs... You mess with one you get the wrath of all of us!


On a lighter note! The sas is back baby!! I've had some family bullsh•T go down and football getting in the way but I'm rearing to get started back to contributing to the amp!!!

(I had alittle more vuglar argument but in the intrest of cencorship and maybe not completely comming off as a dick I deleted some... I've said my piece and I'm done..... Unless more is needed!)

And to you ms.white, I got you love

Fight for peace,
The SAS!
#48October 28th, 2009 · 06:04 AM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
thanks there SAS that needed to be said!!!
#49October 28th, 2009 · 10:25 AM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
Wow Sas Im impressed,funny how you resort to insults..Feel beter now?Hope so..None of you have been able to rebuke my point in an way that you don't include insults or some sort of downgrading comment.I'm starting to think that most of you are just kids and by the look except for Denis you all are less than 20 and can't engage in civil debate without insult...I think the best comment so far is from Meow ..
#50October 28th, 2009 · 01:37 PM
190 threads / 27 songs
2,848 posts
Germany
I think....
... the best comment of this thread is the first one...

... the Lyrics Review section needs more love/attention. pls care about that forum

... about Ultravoz: this site is not an insulting site. It contains a really great community to share musical ideas.

... to close this thread now

Good luck to you allz

TK
#51October 28th, 2009 · 07:02 PM
117 threads / 55 songs
1,540 posts
Chile
OK, most of you will hate me for what I'm about to say, but anyway! This is what I think.
The Lyrics forum is that dead because of the simple reason that you can have music without lyrics but you can't make a tune with just words.
This a MUSIC website, not a poetry one. If you use lyrics to express what you feel then you are not a musician, you are a poet.
Lyrics in a song just intensify what the music is expressing. If it's the other way around, then it's not music, at least for me.
Don't ask for support in a topic that's not directly related to what this website is for. I've never cared too much about lyrics. I just feel it's a way of giving a nice touch to your music. But don't misinterpret me; Sometimes I really enjoy good lyrics, but that won't make a song for me.
I've written lyrics many times. I like a few of them, love just one or two, and the rest is OK. I think I've reviewed the Lyrics forum no more than 5 times and I probably won't review it more than that in the future.
OK, now you can throw me stones.
Good luck.

            > Iszil
#52October 28th, 2009 · 08:17 PM
341 threads / 59 songs
4,361 posts
Cymru (Wales)
Agreed, Miss Whites first post and it's intention were beautiful.
Bit like Miss White 
She steps into the pit and makes a thread...a short, nice, to the point thread......come on guys give the lyrics review some love and attention......and it is understood...Miss White writes lyrics...she's not a headbanger like the rest...!
You on the other hand step into the Pit, for the first time, with a reply, going off on one completely with some ludicrous accusations and personal opinions of Fantasy....and when you are confronted by the community about your actions you proclaim you will just keep on standing there spluttering ludicrous accusations and personal opinions at the very communities members.

Cool.....there's always one isn't there?

You're not Tarus are you? ........ Naa you have balls and at least Tarus can write one English languages properly.

You know, my first post was telling JimK, who is one of the two Mods, that his singing was shit!
Was that starting on the right foot? I dont know! lol
His singing is shit, but at least he tries, and it is wonderful when he's around.....I just wanted him to try singing better !!     

.....controversy and conflict.....hmm! Talking about your self openly isn't such a bad thing if you can hear your self that is.

Anyway Ultravoz welcome to the pages of the Amp......put your dick back in your trousers....because that's not what this community is about.
#53October 28th, 2009 · 08:36 PM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,399 posts
United Kingdom
LOVE
I'm all for peace & love.
I'm simply a hopless lyric critique, and just not a lyracits.
Perhaps as well as posting the lyrics you can add some comments about it or mention what you are not happy with so that we can work on it constructively.

Well this thread has certainly got us talking...lol so maybe we'll see some more activity in the lyric section??.

I LOve You All!!!

Long live BandAMP
#54October 28th, 2009 · 08:44 PM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,399 posts
United Kingdom
DTF wrote…
I'll step aside from this little talk and try and approach the subject supposedly addressed in this thread. Personally I'm a big fan of the lyrics reviews and when I'm bored often head there and try play around with posts and build a song out of them but it's a lot harder to post comments on those threads without being critical (and often insensitive). If you want my honest opinion (and if you don't you may as well stop reading here), a lot of the lyrics posted here are too personal (and not the least bit subtle) for honest, sensitive criticism. If you want more reviews, write something that lends itself to being reviewed. If I can be assured that I won't offend you personally by attacking your work I'll be more likely to say something which, while likely critical, might actually be useful. Either that or state openly that you want to be torn apart by your critics, and stress it with passionate lyricism (or preferably complete lucidity).

I understand I wasn't directly asked for my opinion but I like the lyrics review and want to see it thrive too. Well there you have it anyways.

It would be great if you do review them. If you think that it may be personal or whatever, why not PM the member initially, to see if they are happy posting it?
#55October 28th, 2009 · 09:11 PM
32 threads
158 posts
United States of America
KINGS: Thank you Im a headbanger just havent let the amp see that yet Hopefully before to long though!

DENIS: I completely agree!

I can understand that some members prefure to here the actual songs rather than just read lyrics. I get that! It would be awesome to be able to show you how the music goes, to record it. But I dont have the musical capability (YET) I'm still learning just like everyone. Man I WOULD LOVE for you all to here the music! If i was capable of producing it... but Im working on it. However, I have been trying to write an outline right along side my lyrics so that the reader can somewhat understand what the music in my head is doing, to kinda show the flow of the words. Some lyrics do seem like poetry, I read lyrics posted on here that sound like somebody just typed an english paper, but instead of just complaining about them sounding like poetry I would love to see people help in showing lyricists how to put them into a song form, into some sort of structure. We are here to learn and share knowledge after all!
 I think that lyrics are an important part of music. Think about your favorite song for a minute. Take away the words, then what do you have?? You dont have the same song thats for sure.

I really appriciate everyone's views (well maybe not everyones *ahem* lol) I would like to see the lyric review get some more activity! I would love to see audio get more activity! In fact I would love for all of bandamp to just go crazy with itself lol!

Thank you all again!

Love to all *~*~

Miss White
#56October 28th, 2009 · 09:17 PM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
Again...She's asking for love in a general fashion for her frequented thread area then my opinion is that she should give some back to the other areas she's expecting participation from.Regardless of my time in this place I have every right to express my opinion you agree or not.There's no rule here that says than I can't be opinionated before 100 post or 100 days or which ever is greater right?If so please show it to me.
I haven't been disrespectful to anyone yet you guys have even called me a prick.
What surprises me is the time many have invested here in two days trying to give me a hard time yet haven't posted one thing in the lyrics section.
#57October 28th, 2009 · 09:36 PM
32 threads
158 posts
United States of America
seriously..............
okay now you are just getting on my nerves.

[quote=Ultravoz]Again...She's asking for love in a general fashion for her frequented thread area [quote]

yes that is my "frequented thread area" so what??? I want audio to get better reviews! I want all of bandamp to get more reviews!

With all due respect sir:
I am sorry that we dont have a thread area specified as "asshole review" for you to post in.
I'm sure that you will be the first to know when we get that one up and running!

Until then I think I speak for a lot of people, when I say in the most respectful manner, "Please take a hike"

As for everyone else, I dont know about you but I am through wasting my time on this clown, who is making a mockery out of our forum. This is a music site after all, lets get back to what we do best! Shall we?

Thank you all again!
-Sarah White
#58October 28th, 2009 · 09:40 PM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
Thank you you've made my point...


One more thing try and review a few audio tracks seems to need love too...
Dont slam the door behind you on the way out!
#59October 28th, 2009 · 10:19 PM
76 threads / 5 songs
529 posts
Cook Islands
Let's agree to disagree.

Or disagree to agree.
#60October 28th, 2009 · 11:11 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
Ultravoz wrote…
Again...She's asking for love in a general fashion for her frequented thread area then my opinion is that she should give some back to the other areas she's expecting participation from.Regardless of my time in this place I have every right to express my opinion you agree or not.There's no rule here that says than I can't be opinionated before 100 post or 100 days or which ever is greater right?If so please show it to me.
I haven't been disrespectful to anyone yet you guys have even called me a prick.
What surprises me is the time many have invested here in two days trying to give me a hard time yet haven't posted one thing in the lyrics section.

You've been disrespectful to us in almost every single one of your posts, yet in each you keep saying that your not being disrespectful. I agree with Fantasy's point:
Fantasy wrote…
Until then I think I speak for a lot of people, when I say in the most respectful manner, "Please take a hike"
#61October 29th, 2009 · 01:39 AM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
Kun show me where an Ill take it back....
#62October 29th, 2009 · 06:05 AM
117 threads / 55 songs
1,540 posts
Chile
I was checking Fantasy's profile and noticed that actually if her posts are not in the Pit section they are in the Lyrics Review section.
I agree with Ultravoz that you gotta give to receive. She's a lyricist who ask musicians to participate in her section. Shouldn't we, as musicians, also have the right (or demand) a lyricist to participate in our section as well?
We just make it work like either each member to his area, or all members to all the areas. I don't know if you get what I mean.
I think you are being overprotective to Fantasy because she's a girl and an old member of the community and giving a bad treatment to the new kid on the block, who maybe made his way into our family in a quite tough way.
I'm not playing Devil's advocate here but I'm trying to see this situation in the most neutral possible way.
I don't know either of the involved people; I know Fantasy is quite old here and I've seen her around but never had direct contact with here, and about Ultravoz I know nothing, just that he is colombian as I put the cursor over his flag 5 seconds ago because I had forgotten where it belonged.
So you all guys cut the crap cause this doesn't help at all. I actually felt quite disappointed about some people.
Cheers.

             > Iszil
#63October 29th, 2009 · 07:59 AM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,399 posts
United Kingdom
LET'S TALK
Well It's great we are all talking.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to make our site more productive, fun, educational ETC
After all we are the ones that make it happen.

MAKE IT HAPPEN TODAY

Love you all 
#64October 29th, 2009 · 09:45 AM
113 threads / 58 songs
464 posts
Nepal
Hey hey! the Amp is still alive and kicking!(if a bit low sometime)

I like the starting on the wrong foot thing I did it my self and I think my first few post were having an argument with good old members (kings among others) the thing is to stick to it

This is a great community who's dying slowly lets face it so advice to oldies " go easy on the new guy at least he's got opinions and bother to spend some time on the site to express them

I'll be honest I don't spend much time on the lyrics review these days I did in the past but found very difficult to do good review
And to be very honest I found difficult to do reviews on some of the music too (to my ears some is crap but I try never to say it)but I try to do my share cause I want to get some back on my own songs (it help to grow my little ego grow bigger!!!)

That's not the point I think the problem is that reviews of any kind are down anywhere!

It's always funny to read about "I've been here longer than you" etc...why not mine is bigger than yours while we're at it!

As for the clicky thing of course it's clicky! it's a small community and the way I see it it's one big click of active members they are not that many now days

so stick to it post some more be argumental as much as you want that's the all point of a community we can't all think the same
More importantly please do post some music or lyrics for that matter as we are all eager to hear what you do!
Expect some stick but who knows you might charm us and win us all

Good luck and well done it's been a while since the Amp hasn't had a threat so alive
#65October 29th, 2009 · 06:15 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
Ultravoz wrote…
Kun show me where an Ill take it back....

Nevermind. lets all just agree to be friends. thanks iszil and denis and vincentl
#66October 29th, 2009 · 10:00 PM
1 threads
29 posts
Colombia
I'm cool with friendship,wasn't trying to be a jerk as many might think.Just been honest.
#67October 29th, 2009 · 11:43 PM
128 threads / 44 songs
2,814 posts
Puerto Rico
Oye colombia wuz up? Bienvendo man(lol),great start and warm reception I see...Anyway don't to get caught up with this amigo,lyrics or audio is all good just review either or both.Welcome to the amp..
#68October 30th, 2009 · 11:40 AM
371 threads / 187 songs
3,399 posts
United Kingdom
Ultravoz wrote…
I'm cool with friendship,wasn't trying to be a jerk as many might think.Just been honest.

That's cool, hey you did good, this thread is cooking, even though it's a bit too spicy in places.
Honesty is the best policy
#69January 1st, 2010 · 07:49 AM
27 threads / 2 songs
179 posts
Canada
He's Gone! I'm Back!
Well, I skipped most of the third page.

I see it is an old thread but read it as it has to do with lyrics...so happens to be what I do lol.

I see he has all his posts in a single thread....that is good. -Means he is likely gone.

There is such thing as spam guard...too bad there is no moron guard.

Anyways, lyrics forum has a few lyricists that do it solely. Others use it for posting lyrics to already posted audio. Both are good uses of the forums. We all know who is who. We all know who is interested in what. Yes, it would be nice to get a more active lyricist community here. At the same time, if the audio buffs find it a chore to visit that forums to comment, cus it simply is not their thing...then why push them to?

Yes...any lyric I post I really want to be critiqued brutally and honestly...some I have posted are horrid...while others became popular. It takes criticism AND positive reinforcement to get more of those lyrics that inspire the audio buffs into musical action.

For those who think words don't count in a song...wow. When you see someone in an audience at a concert...do you hear them humming in concert with the instruments or do you see them singing all out with the musician? They sing...people are meant to sing. They sing words. They rather sing inspiring words. It takes inspiration to write inspiring words...just as it does for great guitar solos.

Some people live and breathe music. They feel it in their bones....but there can be only so many Santana's out there...and even he relies on good lyricists and vocalists.

So, yes. Lyrics Forum needs a bit of a boot in the butt. Lyricists need to work with each other. They also need to work with musicians more. Collaborate and make great songs...that is what this site is for. It isn't for fighting over what is more valid an art. Where you lack passion, look for it in another. Soon the great BandAmp tree will bear the fruits of your combined passion and your soul will be better for it.

ps. Sorry for my absence...I missed you all. Had some things going on.

Hit me up if you have something that begs for some words. I think I have one I need to work on soon for big D.
happy new years all.
-Mark
#70January 1st, 2010 · 04:54 PM
15 threads / 8 songs
322 posts
Sweden
I found it surprising how some of you ganged up on Ultravoz, like a bunch of immature kids, just because he shared his personal opinion. I understand she may be a friend of yours, but that doesn't mean he has to be bullied or called a moron, 'dustyskates'. Which is most likely why he's gone.
As far as lyrics reviews go, their nice, but I don't see people being that interested in just reviewing lyrics. But, that's just my opinion, hopefully I won't be attacked for it.
#71January 1st, 2010 · 06:42 PM
77 threads / 45 songs
2,296 posts
United States of America
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its to bad that songs & lyrics don't get this many reviews....
#72January 1st, 2010 · 09:17 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
fais54 wrote…
I found it surprising how some of you ganged up on Ultravoz, like a bunch of immature kids, just because he shared his personal opinion. I understand she may be a friend of yours, but that doesn't mean he has to be bullied or called a moron, 'dustyskates'. Which is most likely why he's gone.
As far as lyrics reviews go, their nice, but I don't see people being that interested in just reviewing lyrics. But, that's just my opinion, hopefully I won't be attacked for it.

oh we're an emotional bunch here at the amp...im sure there will be attacks on everyone in time lol
#73January 1st, 2010 · 10:24 PM
27 threads / 2 songs
179 posts
Canada
@fais
Whether there is interest or not in lyrics forums or not is not the point of everyone 'ganging up' on whatshisface. The point was that he came in here and started berating a person for making THEIR opinion. What right did he have to bitch and moan about anyone's opinion...He didn't even make an attempt to comment on any other thread...probably not even an attempt to listen or read anything except to find more info to criticize Fantasy about. What right did this total noober have to come in here and act like the big aficionado on posting etiquette when he has not made a single post himself? These are the reasons...along with constantly talking about how no one can debate in here...are the reasons I have labelled him a moron.

Also, why he is 'most likely gone' is because he realized just how much of a noober he is and put us out of his misery. 

So to sum up...Yes. Your opinion is valid fais. Lyrics are not the dominant feature of this website, but it is a part nonetheless. Some of us really enjoy it, while others try and avoid it. Just how it goes. My recommendation is that people take a look sometimes if they are stuck for an idea...just remember to give credit where it is due if a lyric is used in part or whole.

That being said...it changes nothing of what I posted earlier.
I will try and get caught up on the posts tonight and review some tunes and lyrics...can't wait!

Cheers
Mark

ps Hi Ralph!
#74January 2nd, 2010 · 12:14 AM
76 threads / 5 songs
529 posts
Cook Islands
This is my opinion, whether it is valued or not.

Yes, the lyrics section does need love, and needed attention brought to it. But, we are ALL, and I mean ALL at fault here. We say we want more posts in it, but we do not do it ourselves.
And, no one, and that includes every one, whether they are a new member or an old member, has the right to belittle another person. They are merely human and will act as such. Yet, this does not gives us the right to insult another.

So, with this said, why don't we stop dwelling on the past, get off our asses, and review some lyrics,eh? 


And everyone, put a smile on your damn faces. :]
#75January 2nd, 2010 · 12:32 AM
50 threads / 32 songs
292 posts
Canada
MeowMachine wrote…
... So, with this said, why don't we stop dwelling on the past, get off our asses, and review some lyrics,eh? 

...

And everyone, put a smile on your damn faces. :]



    --XFactor--
#76January 2nd, 2010 · 09:26 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
1,932 posts
Canada
I dont know what you guys are talking about in regards to that Ultravoz replied to NO SONGS and did no other forum posts because he did....

On my song Better Than Green Pt 1 he did: https://forum.bandamp.org/Audio_Review/7628_page2.html#id24659
Ultravoz wrote…
Track lacks volume.
Care nothing about kool aid either red nor green but seems catchy anyways.
Slide to loud.
Drums always play the same fill.
Vox out of tune on occasion

Bring the volume up and cut the Eq with a low pass filter that should get some hiss out.Use the shelve type skip the notch !There some free ones in KVR they run in most DAW's.

Not sure what the crap is that guy talking about sounding knocking on heavens whatever,there's only 7 natural notes and 5 accidentals so its inevitable to come across similar chord changes.Listen to Guantamera and la Bamba  there the same progression yet different songs,In my opinion that guys view was rather ignorant.

Good song needs work.
Concept album?
So whats the concept?Juices?

If you click his name and go through his forum posts hes posted quite a bit...not just in this one thread
#77March 4th, 2010 · 04:57 PM
15 threads / 8 songs
322 posts
Sweden
This thread is sad to read. Shame on everyone involved. 
I agree with Fantasy though!
#78March 5th, 2010 · 03:35 AM
160 threads / 33 songs
1,966 posts
United States of America
wow. look what I missed.. glad I did not get involved.

   Back to OP.. I tried to review some lyrics ,, I'm just not very good at it.. I am not a great poet,writer,lyricist. I can come up with some lyrics but they are pretty simple and without real depth..

   I am not exactly sure what a lyricist is looking for in a review.  Maybe we should have a post on things to look for and what lyricist and music writers .. want and need in a review to help them improve their ideas .. to progress onwards with their talent.
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