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#1November 13th, 2008 · 09:38 PM
55 threads / 30 songs
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United Kingdom
Web page creation
Nothing to do with the BandAmp web site and the excellent work being done by TLS... I've just started creating a web site for my band; the site is extremely amateurish as so far I just wanted to see how easy it would be to get stuff on t'internet.

I've used the web creation tool that's offered through the web host, but there are obviously significantly better ones out there.  So do you friendly BandAMPers  have any suggestions for a virgin website creator?

If you're interested, so the site is: www.weird-habitz.co.uk - don't expect too much   

Jim A

[edit:  I'll be sticking some music up there, and will want an integrated player.... how the hell do I do that?] lol
#2November 13th, 2008 · 10:59 PM
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United Kingdom
re: Web page creation
check out ezgenerator.com

its a program the allies itself with fruity loops

ive tried it and it seems great!!! and easy 2 use...........

just dont want to buy it yet ........haha......as i'm busted!!!!

john
#3November 14th, 2008 · 11:45 AM
190 threads / 27 songs
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Germany
great thing.... I would love to hear/see you playing "Brick In The Wall"

If you find a chance to record either video or audio please....
#4November 14th, 2008 · 03:43 PM
181 threads / 54 songs
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Canada
Man seeing you playing Brick in the wall would be great.
So far the site is okay, but there is lots of empty space.

I know your still working on it,
but try Freewebs.com
(its free)
If you create a site with them they even give u a tool to upload your own music and let people play it online.
Its really easy
#5November 14th, 2008 · 04:07 PM
341 threads / 59 songs
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Cymru (Wales)
O! I want to hear Tush and Mary Jane's Last Dance 
Cant you link the songs in the song list to either a video of you on youTube or to the songs page here on bandAmp?
Site is looking good , nice and simple , I've read somewhere that you should never have an 'under construction' sign, because the internet in always 'under construction' , and if your doing it right so is your site, constantly changing / being updated / being worked upon.
Telling visitors when you last updated is a nice touch.

Go to w3schools and quite specifically the left hand menu on this page http://www.w3schools.com/html/DEFAULT.asp
Otherwise I'm sorry but I have no 'automatic web page creator program' tips.

What about a 'gallery' page and a page for your next gigs?
#6November 14th, 2008 · 06:33 PM
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United Kingdom
Cheers guys... much appreciated.  And Kings, especially thanks for your PM, and the link above which is a great site
I'll be very slowly working on the web page for the band.  The intention is to house the covers that we've recorded on the site - clicking one of the songs on the playlist will start a media player on the page.  As I said before I have no idea how to do this yet, so it'll be a challenge!! lol.

As far as Another Brick is concerned, it's one of the songs that's recorded (and has been chosen for our sample CD) - I'm not entirely convinced about uploading yet another cover on BandAMP, but if you want me to then I will.  Mary Jane is another one that I'm pretty happy with.  I've not tried recording Tush yet, simply because it's a let your hair loose song (ok, so I don't have much hair to let loose, but that's beside the point) and every time we play it, it seems to be slightly different.
#7November 14th, 2008 · 06:34 PM
341 threads / 59 songs
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Cymru (Wales)
O I do have a tip for a good Automatic Web Page Creator : Notepad ! 
#8November 14th, 2008 · 08:29 PM
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Cymru (Wales)
Jiminuk wrote…
The intention is to house the covers that we've recorded on the site - clicking one of the songs on the playlist will start a media player on the page.

Been there but had problems with different browsers but I did find a way of doing it though, if you want to know ... ask.
Otherwise, Avi sussed out how to embed the bandAmp player on your own page [I'll look for link later]...or .... you would be better off going to the source and learning how to embed a flash player on your page [google search]

Many would say Flash is the best way to get around browser differences, you can either make your own player (I have) with Macromedia Flash or you can download/copy-paste a free player on-line.
#9November 14th, 2008 · 09:51 PM
128 threads / 44 songs
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Puerto Rico
Looking good..Jim..nice play list!!
Would enjoy seeing you guys live!!
Cheers mate!
#10November 15th, 2008 · 06:50 AM
117 threads / 20 songs
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United States of America
i kind of like the abstract feel of the layout, though.  web2.0 sites (like youtube, facebook) have layouts that are overdone.  I think it's a great start to the site.  As you get more content, it should blend well.  Only suggestion: don't clutter it up with too many menu items.  clutter = confusing.

Best of luck
#11June 3rd, 2009 · 09:02 PM
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United Kingdom
Site update
It's been a long, long time since I had a mess around with my Weird Habitz website - I just haven't had the expertise, time (or inclination) to do it.  TLS I have to take my hat off to you with what you've done to the Bandamp pages - so impressive!

I'd appreciate any comments on the changes I've now made.  I still don't know enough to imbed some sort of music player so despite having about 15 or so MP3s to stick on the site, I have no idea how to get people to hear them!  Very frustrating.

So, erm....... help a very stupid Jim anyone?!?



Oh, once again it's www.weird-habitz.co.uk
#12June 3rd, 2009 · 10:27 PM
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Cymru (Wales)
re: Site update
Jiminuk wrote…
I still don't know enough to imbed some sort of music player so despite having about 15 or so MP3s to stick on the site, I have no idea how to get people to hear them!  Very frustrating.
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Bummer! You must know someone who knows a little html. Because it's dead easy. It would take you an afternoon to suss out how to get a player on your page. From the first google search for a free flash player to publishing the page ........................ would only take 20 minutes LOL
Try http://kingsonone.com/Jim

 
#13June 7th, 2009 · 08:47 PM
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United Kingdom
Kings,
Thanks for the link to the file... I have managed to get something working on a page that's not visible on the server yet, but it's still not quite there.
What I have done in the mean time, is opened up a myspace account, posted a few songs on there, and linked to that site from my own.  A kind of cheat until I can do it properly.

Oh, I did try and upload my MP3s to my own site, but it was rejected as I don't have a FTP installed - so if this is just File Transfer Protocol software, what do I need to get that sorted?  Hopefully it's a simple windows "switch" that just isn't activated as yet.


Jim A
#14June 9th, 2009 · 06:11 AM
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Cymru (Wales)
Jim,
I googled 'free ftp program' and it seams FileZilla comes up on top of the list, I dont know the program but it should be like every other ftp program.
As long as you fill in the ftp address, your name and the password correctly under the 'site' or 'connection' interface in the program.
Where ever you rent your web space from should have supplied you with your ftp address, name and password.
A lot of web building programs/text editors have ftp built in so that you can immediately publish your page from the program. I've been trying out a few recently but Dreamweaver is still my favourite choice. Because it updates all the files involved with a page when saving and publishing.
#15June 9th, 2009 · 09:40 PM
177 threads / 27 songs
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United Kingdom
Hi Jim .......
Ive just finished using a free programme that is so damn simple even I can make a site .......

Its called WIX........goto

http://www.wix.com/

and here is the proof of the pudding ........ my bands first site.......

http://www.wix.com/JohnMT/AliveandKicking

hope you find it useful......

Graffik Fish   
#16June 17th, 2009 · 03:41 PM
55 threads / 30 songs
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United Kingdom
Great stuff - both Kings and Mr Very Graffik Fish! (Good site Swordy - very flashy.)
I've just come back from holiday, and have a bit of time to fiddle before going back to work so can have a play with both lots of tools.
Kings - having never used a FTP programme before, I was slightly nervous of what I'd be faced with; but no longer!  I've logged on to my web page using Fileziller, and am even now transferring songs over to a directory on the site.  OK, I still have to see if I can get the MP3 player to actually work by clicking on a song (a feature that Swordy's site does with apparent ease) but all the time I'm trying different things I'm learning more.
Once again, thanks for your help on this one guys
Jim A
#17June 17th, 2009 · 04:04 PM
341 threads / 59 songs
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Cymru (Wales)
Jiminuk wrote…
Great stuff - both Kings and Mr Very Graffik Fish! (Good site Swordy - very flashy.)
I've just come back from holiday, and have a bit of time to fiddle before going back to work so can have a play with both lots of tools.
Kings - having never used a FTP programme before, I was slightly nervous of what I'd be faced with; but no longer!  I've logged on to my web page using Fileziller, and am even now transferring songs over to a directory on the site.  OK, I still have to see if I can get the MP3 player to actually work by clicking on a song (a feature that Swordy's site does with apparent ease) but all the time I'm trying different things I'm learning more.
Once again, thanks for your help on this one guys
Jim A
:)
Nice one Jim, I'm really pleased for you.
You can only learn a little at a time and at the same time realise that there's always a mountain of stuff just around the corner waiting for you to understand.
Yes Swordys site is really cool, just lacking a human touch ... they should rename such programs to WhatYouSeeIsWhatYourStuckWithTillYouLookALittleCloserYourSELF! lol
#18June 19th, 2009 · 03:34 PM
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United Kingdom
Yes mines a
WhatYouSeeIsWhatYourStuckWithTillYouLookALittleCloserYourSELF! site.......  
Its a first for me, and fits the bill so far ........ I know there is loads of stuff it cant do .....but it got me started after weeks of frustration .....
Its kind of web design for idiots (like me)!!
glad u liked it though Kings :):)

Oh yeah, Jim I've just today found another 'easy build' site thats giving the software away

google:

 webeasy 7 express .............and follow the links

Ive downloaded this too and it seems OK but without all the flash.....

 

fish
#19June 20th, 2009 · 11:19 AM
55 threads / 30 songs
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United Kingdom
The hosting site for my Weird-Habitz page is One.com and they provide on-line web page creation tools that are ok (and like you say fish, are simple enough for me to use as a beginner.)  I've looked at the code on the pages using notepad (and even managed to alter some of it without totally screwing things up) but will have to enter this learning process in a very slow and deliberate way just in case.
I still haven't quite worked out how to actually play the songs that I've now uploaded onto my site - that's the next thing to learn.
But once again, cheers guys for your support and comments.

Jim A
#20June 20th, 2009 · 09:40 PM
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Cymru (Wales)
Jiminuk wrote…
I still haven't quite worked out how to actually play the songs that I've now uploaded onto my site - that's the next thing to learn.
With a flash mp3 player...that you 'copy and paste' into your page.....your already half way there.  
#21June 20th, 2009 · 11:19 PM
177 threads / 27 songs
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United Kingdom
wierd habitz.........
I went in search of a wierd habitz page ..........

googled you and but didnt find you ...............

so .......... as Im sure kings is watching this thread ................

how do you make sure your site is picked up by search engines like google????

??

fish
#22June 21st, 2009 · 10:35 PM
341 threads / 59 songs
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Cymru (Wales)
re: wierd habitz.........
Try http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=search+engine+optimization
It's what it's called.

I've delved a little and come to the conclusion that at the end of the day all you need is a tidy, properly written, validated page, with the applicable words in the proper tags the search engines will 'like your page'.
Putting keywords in meta tags does not work , hiding keywords by making them small also doesn't work and can have an adverse effect making SEs block your page.
Put your main keywords in your H1s ; Welcome to my music and guitar and trumpet and drums tabs page.
And put the lesser keywords in H3s ; Our band sings folk songs...
And put what you want to generally babble in Ps (Paragraph tags)
This is a very simple version of a simple page but you get the idea.

I was looking for a local companies web page the other day, typed in the company name in Google, got a page full of results.....I was surprised to see my own carpentry page come in at 6 place...because I have his name in the page text and I have a validated page  ... so I came in front of nearly every one else 

Validating is a W3C thing  
#23June 26th, 2009 · 07:16 PM
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United Kingdom
re: wierd habitz.........
swordfish wrote…
I went in search of a wierd habitz page ..........

googled you and but didnt find you ...............

so .......... as Im sure kings is watching this thread ................

how do you make sure your site is picked up by search engines like google????

??

fish

Well knock me down for not seeing the obvious... Mr Fish you couldn't find my band through google because YOU SPELT IT WRONG!!
The band name is Weird Habitz
so the first word is Weird, not wierd!

Going to have another go at getting an MP3 player working on the site - still not quite there despite the advice from Kings.
#24June 28th, 2009 · 04:23 PM
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United Kingdom
re: re: wierd habitz.........
W00ps!!!
       

Must've been WIRED at the time ......... haha

I blame my English Taecher....

haha



fish
#25August 21st, 2009 · 06:04 PM
32 threads / 20 songs
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Canada
If you got the time learn HTML, CSS, and Javascript. MaybePHP too if you got even more time.

I really can't advise using free generator tools or dreamweaver. I work full-time at an ad-agency as a web-developer and I always had a hate for those tools, so if you got time learn from scratch. Otherwise sure use a generator.
#26August 27th, 2009 · 12:21 AM
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