This probably is all my own browser / systems fault but it's still happening.


Tried twice to upload a song yesterday ... first time from FF it said it had a Server Error ... Browser is giving wrong info, second time also with FF but with Avast turned off ... in case it was doing something, but bandamp gave the same message.
Tried to upload this morning in a newly installed Chrome ... really cool feature telling me how much is uploaded but bandamp tells me I already have a song of that name .... bollocks I do !

Bloody temperamental site ... no wonder it's quiet !

I'll try to clear the cache ... it might help ... yet bandamp was the first page I went to when I installed Chrome!

No, clearing FF cache did not work either ... it came up with an error server timed out message.

Send me the song, I'll try uploading it.
Just a hunch, try doing a disc clean u, look at all options.
What's the name of the song, I assume you are not using any signs etc, which I'm sure you know don't allow you to upload.
Check your mp3 settings, and your Cubase settings, keep it 16bit and 44100Hz
Try changing the name

Cheers Denis
I need to try out saving in iTunes, a PX tip which has worked in the past ... I just dont want to install it!
I might try some other programs too, Wavelab has given me problems like this in the past.

Name is fine, bit rate and Hz as they should be, internet connection and browser are good as far as I know ... it's probably Mud and how he's written in recognising codecs or tags or some encoding or something like that when uploading to the site, it's all his own code and I'm not the only one with this problem.

I'll try again later ... 

There are several checkings before you can upload your file.
Perhaps it's useful to write it down in the FAQs which certain criteria must be fulfilled.
I'll make a collection of those criterias and place it somewhere in the FAQs or RUles or so

Yes 'certain criteria to be fulfilled' in deed !
As well as 'only text and number' file names I'm sure you could add "advisable to save in a popular standardised media program" or something like that,
 iTunes worked for me before, I had AIMP2 installed so tried that this time, and that worked.
MP3s saved in Wavelab have done this before to me, I'd just forgotten, it's been so long since I uploaded
It must be how wavlab 'encodes' mp3s and what muds code checks for.... or expects to receive.

Yes, open your file with the tag editor in AIMP, do nothing just save and you're able to upload your track.

$result := MP3 != MP3;

ID3 tags need to be in a certain format. This is not Mud's code. Sourceforge.net once offered a class GetID3 to check MP3 files. This is used here before it runs through the heavenly work by our all of us honored code guru.

Check your mailbox for detailed information

it's NOT the browser!

Same thing has happened to me when I treid to upload my song a few days ago. Is it the format that we're both saving in?... except persistance with the same file eventually paid off for me. so idk...  It's def not the browser cos chrome and firefox produced the same problem...  (although chrome has recently come up with a weird start up message saying "couldn't open profile" ever since the leap second... This doesn't affect anything on mine except chrome no longer saves any input info like usernames)... so is it bandamps site or servers?... 

No, it's not bandamps site or servers.
You get the message because the open source script for ID3 tag checking seems to run into a loop or so. It's the way how the browser shows its behaviour.

For all technicians:
Here is a link where you can find everything about ID3 tags in audio & video files.
http://www.id3.org/

Really interesting is the developer section
http://www.id3.org/Developer_Information

and the implementation section where you can find a list of programs with which you can edit the ID3 tags in your files
http://www.id3.org/Implementations


Hope that helped

Here is a thread out of Steinberg's forum

https://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=77493

......and another one

http://serato.com/forum/discussion/134632

Ok, Thanks TK for clearing that up. I see now that you've explained it pretty clearly, It's just that I'm not clued up on this and didn't even know what iD3 tags even were.

So without going into the chunks and sub chunks of the situation (cos it's a little over my head)... when I save an mp3 in AIMP does it save without any iD3 tags at all (is this even possible) or just in a format that bandamps source script can understand. As in is it the tag itself that causes it to run in a loop or is it the info saved in the tag?

Ian ... always tag your mp3s before uploading on-line ... anywhere.
It's what sites search for when looking for music, it's what's displayed on any good media player ... you know name, title, artist, album, number on album, copyright holder ... etc etc etc , judging by the info at Steinberg there are A LOT of tag possibilities.

As you've probably read I tagged and saved my original mp3 in AIMP2 (it's free and well cool), doing this somehow put all the info that is stored with the mp3 in an order and manner that bandamps uploading code understood ... as compared to the mp3 saved in Steinbergs software that 'tagged' the mp3 in a way bandamp did not recognise ... but then TK has explained all this and you've understood ... I suppose I'm also understanding it for the first time, and it has been the cause of a lot of frustration for a lot of people.

Try this ... every digital file has a 'header', this is a string of code containing all the relevant info about that file ... TK sent me a comparison of both headers : mp3 saved in Steinberg and mp3 saved in AIMP2, both headers were very different.
Now while Steinbergs header is very tidy and probably very correct it's just not recognised by the code that uploads songs to bandamp ... I tried other sites too with the same results ... the site hanging and nothing happening until an error smacks you in the face

cool. already downloaded AIMP just there. I'll do this next time I upload. Thanks

I was thinking, I know that the ins and outs of bandamps workings and not workings have been the subject of alot of debate over the years so I won't talk too much. It's just about this one little issue. If we can't fix the source script to solve this problem, could we at least have a message or warning that comes up prior to uploading a song, explaining that you can only upload mp3s to Bandamp with the right iD3 tags (tell them how easy it is) and give links to freeware (including, but maybe not limited to AIMP)?

I just think this problem will put some people off uploading and being active members. I'm sure we'd all like to see more activity around here. It seems so much slower compared to when I first joined and I don't think it's because there are better sites out there. This is one of the best, mainly because of the long serving active members who create the welcoming community feel, but also because the layout and look, the simple way the forum is organised etc. Just as an afterthought, what do you have to type into google apart from "bandamp" to get bandamp reasonably high up... I can't remember how I first found the site.. 

Good idea!
Is there soemone who has the knowledge about SEO (Search Engine Optimizing)? I don't know much about it. But what I know is that it needs changings on the frontpage, keywords in  tags or . It uses alternative text of image tags and it needs

When I stumbled upon bandamp.com in 2005 I was looking in Google with keywords like "mp3 free download". Today I get 528.000.000 results and Bandamp does NOT appear in the first 100 results.

What do you think about how Bandamp could be described by keywords? Which keywords could be used?


Back to ID3 tags.... 
On the first look I realized that there ARE several error messages included but I can't see why the message has not been triggered. I can send you the class which is in use to find out why it refuses bad formatted MP3 files without sending an error message

I know nothing about SEO but when I posted my last comment I was searching "creating music forum", "home made music forum", "amatuer music forum", even "music advice forum"... nothing on the first few pages. Those are the types of words that I associate with bandamp... It would be interesting to see what others think.

If I can help TK, I will. You can send me anything but you'll probs need to tell me what to do or what i'm looking at

A handful ideas for keywords :

musician´s community
music collaboration
music forum
music platform
independant music
indie music
music community
music upload
free music
free download
free upload
CC-music
CC-download
Creative commons
mp3 upload / download
music theory forum
recording forum
video forum

I seem to think I came across bandamp through a button banner ... but I dont know where that was, it could have been on Mudcube. But it was a year later before I started taking part.

Open any forum page a look down the subjects ... these are the things that people are looking for.

Try Fruity Loops Tutorials ... probably one of our most prised contributors

Apparently search engines dont really consider the 'keyword' list at the top of the code, not since porn sites abused them years ago ... or was it people who put porn keywords on pages with no porn, just to get hits

Whatever words you use make sure they make sense with the rest of the site.
I believe Google works on the bases that a page must be 'correct' : keywords that match content, code that validates, no keywords in 'small' type or in hidden divs

So that allows me to put porn keywords on Bandamp just to pull people on the site....????  how cool is that...

I've been having trouble with uploading as well. I'm using firefox. I've looked at some of your guys info but before I tried any of it I first tried using internet explorer and Tada! suddenly worked. Didnt have to encode or tag anything. Maybe it was just luck but try using it.