| I know this has been discussed before but.. |
I would like to strongly suggest required reviewing. Like atleast 3 reviews per upload. I know of a few people who are sick and tired of the way things run around here as far as reciprocal reviews and such. I know there are more than a few people who just drop their songs off and leave like this was a babysitting service or something. I think this site would be a million times more fun to visit if it wasnt the same 6 or 8 people doing all the reviewing!
3 per the original upload... I would suggest 3 per every upload.
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well, look at me....
I'd have 3 reviews required total, wouldn't I?
And I've been around longer than that.
Three reviews per.....two weeks of membership??
We do have an awful lot of members that joined posted once, and have never been seen again. It would be good to simply clear out a lot of accounts that are just sitting there.
Plus, this whole thing is ABOUT reviewing, not about battles etc. There needs to be a LOT more of it going on. three reviews every week is certainly not too much to ask from a member, especially if they expect to get anything BACK.
well, look at me....
I'd have 3 reviews required total, wouldn't I?
And I've been around longer than that.
Three reviews per.....two weeks of membership??
We do have an awful lot of members that joined posted once, and have never been seen again. It would be good to simply clear out a lot of accounts that are just sitting there.
Plus, this whole thing is ABOUT reviewing, not about battles etc. There needs to be a LOT more of it going on. three reviews every week is certainly not too much to ask from a member, especially if they expect to get anything BACK.
I agree! Support your community, people!
Yes and support your people, community !
3 per upload - 3 per download. Sounds good to me.
And that the song your downloading must be one of them
bandAmp 'the site' works on the principle that people take part in it, and bandAmp in particular is a community so if all your 200 or so visitors per day who traffic in from Google and alike, would not be able to just surf in, download 'all kinds of free music' and then just bugger off again, 'the site' it's self would feel the benefits. Which would translate to the members, in there being more going on, more reviews, more comments and more life in general about the site.
People could then listen all day, to their heats content, like they would to any radio station, but if they want to take the music with them, take in off the site, short of recording each track locally themselves, they should be made to contribute to the site.
One comment on the song that you're downloaded, one comment as a 'thank you' and one comment as a 'getting to know you gesture' !
3 per upload - 3 per download. Sounds good to me.
And that the song your downloading must be one of them
bandAmp 'the site' works on the principle that people take part in it, and bandAmp in particular is a community so if all your 200 or so visitors per day who traffic in from Google and alike, would not be able to just surf in, download 'all kinds of free music' and then just bugger off again, 'the site' it's self would feel the benefits. Which would translate to the members, in there being more going on, more reviews, more comments and more life in general about the site.
People could then listen all day, to their heats content, like they would to any radio station, but if they want to take the music with them, take in off the site, short of recording each track locally themselves, they should be made to contribute to the site.
One comment on the song that you're downloaded, one comment as a 'thank you' and one comment as a 'getting to know you gesture' !
Maybe we should type the naughty list and give to Santa Claus !!!!!
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The I've been busy excuse is a bit dated,you have time to post,you have time to review in my opinion.Even if its 3 songs a week its a least something.
Honestly shame we have to bring this up again and I'm sure people are going to be "but well what if don't wanna review",or "I'm not in the mood" or "I don't have to this is not Garageband",etc,etc....
Guys look at members review post you would be amazed at the amount of post(laking )for the amount of years in here...Like really!!!!!!!!Specially those who drop and run(LOL)!!!!
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The I've been busy excuse is a bit dated,you have time to post,you have time to review in my opinion.Even if its 3 songs a week its a least something.
Honestly shame we have to bring this up again and I'm sure people are going to be "but well what if don't wanna review",or "I'm not in the mood" or "I don't have to this is not Garageband",etc,etc....
Guys look at members review post you would be amazed at the amount of post(laking )for the amount of years in here...Like really!!!!!!!!Specially those who drop and run(LOL)!!!!
Marino
I guess things haven't changed....... 
I would like to add that their should be a minimum amount of characters to be used for the review or it wont allow you to post it...so no...this is good...you rock.....etc etc.Just popped in to be nosey...take care all...hope everyone is doing well.
OH! Very impressed to see Zach up and going
I would like to add that their should be a minimum amount of characters to be used for the review or it wont allow you to post it...so no...this is good...you rock.....etc etc.Just popped in to be nosey...take care all...hope everyone is doing well.OH! Very impressed to see Zach up and going
I would love to see everyone reviewing and voting on the songs. To me, it's one of the reasons I spend time here... I enjoy the variety of music and get a kick out of seeing people improve in their music skills (there have been a number of "regulars" that have made major improvements in writing, recording, and playing)
That said, people that want to vote will vote... those that don't won't! It's fine having a view about what we should all do, but I doubt that it will significantly effect the way that people behave on this site. It's the same with every community; some people take a really active involvement in what's going on, with others just popping in, doing what they want, and then buggering off again!
I feel that to get the best from BandAmp, you have to be a part of it all... comment, review, vote, and post stuff too (ok, I've not put a song up for a while, but that's cos I've been concentrating on covers of other artists). Clearly other people don't feel the same way! It's a pity for them as there are some monumentally good bits of music here, as well as artists who just need a little encouragement to produce some fabulous material... for those that just post their own stuff, and don't bother listening, reviewing (and yes voting) then it's them that's missing out!
Have I said enough? I've said too much
That said, people that want to vote will vote... those that don't won't! It's fine having a view about what we should all do, but I doubt that it will significantly effect the way that people behave on this site. It's the same with every community; some people take a really active involvement in what's going on, with others just popping in, doing what they want, and then buggering off again!
I feel that to get the best from BandAmp, you have to be a part of it all... comment, review, vote, and post stuff too (ok, I've not put a song up for a while, but that's cos I've been concentrating on covers of other artists). Clearly other people don't feel the same way! It's a pity for them as there are some monumentally good bits of music here, as well as artists who just need a little encouragement to produce some fabulous material... for those that just post their own stuff, and don't bother listening, reviewing (and yes voting) then it's them that's missing out!
Have I said enough? I've said too much
Ha ha aha, make it very difficult! Atleast 3 reviews of more than 50 characters per upload IN THE SAME SESSION. So if you log out and come back later to upload your song, you have to review 3 more songs again 
listen, don't really worry about it .... some people are just that way and you can't stop them... you will get 50-character b/s reviews or people staying away from the amp at all if the thresh is too high. Leave it as it is... faik you have to do 3 reviews per song, not just 3 reviews for the initial song... but 3 more per new upload? I really did think it was like this... anyway that would grant me um... well, 711 songs to upload. I did make slightly over 600 over the years, but not 711... Greeattt..
listen, don't really worry about it .... some people are just that way and you can't stop them... you will get 50-character b/s reviews or people staying away from the amp at all if the thresh is too high. Leave it as it is... faik you have to do 3 reviews per song, not just 3 reviews for the initial song... but 3 more per new upload? I really did think it was like this... anyway that would grant me um... well, 711 songs to upload. I did make slightly over 600 over the years, but not 711... Greeattt..
Garageband requires that you do 15 PAIRS of reviews before you can upload and they have thousands of members! Im not saying that we should go that extreme but putting in a 3 review per upload rule would definately weed out the bammers and make a definate improvement to the site. Unfortunately, It seems all ideas around here die just like this. We discuss everything and nothing gets done? Why dont we implement some way to vote for new ideas so that we know how Ampers stand. I mean, if the site is supposed to belong to the members now, isnt it important to know how the members feel and act on that?
alright, jimk should be handing out access to someone who can program stuff in, atleast I understood that was the deal now... first thing to add is a poll system for new ideas, and, for instance, let the polls be open for 1 month, if gathered enough favor (66% in favor(?)/atleast 10 votes (?)(just thoughts) ) then the idea has to be implemented? A system somewhat like this seems like the way to go for.. right?
Now we're talking! JIM!!!!
Thought on this this afternoon and came to the conclusion that maybe 'free' (no paying respect with a comment) downloading of songs is all right as vicious as this may seam to members who work hard to get their music out there, but that's exactly what's happening, your music is getting out there into the wide world.
Into Ipods and MP3 players, If your good people will want to listen, thats the way it's always been.
bandAmp needs a way of getting it's very best music and artists and put them all on the front page for direct access and most impact : "Download free the cream of indie Music.....much more inside"
There could be a really cool tree menu on the left hand column with names of resident artists and a few of their best songs, instead of that boring blue row of old battles (how useless and drab!)
The members need to make the site work for them.
Set the site up so that it's getting the music out there.....for free, if say someone looking for a 'new idea' to promote were surfing around and stumbled into bandAmp, you're going to want to throw all your best stuff at them immediately are you not? 'within the first 15 seconds' ! Not make them dig through tones of noodles and poodles and various other creations, because thay aint going to, if you ask me.
And their also not going to go through the whole reg process as well as commenting just to download a song.......well they might, but not having to is a bonus !
The problem with these idea threads is that they become discussions, and the initial idea gets lost in the views.
Into Ipods and MP3 players, If your good people will want to listen, thats the way it's always been.
bandAmp needs a way of getting it's very best music and artists and put them all on the front page for direct access and most impact : "Download free the cream of indie Music.....much more inside"
There could be a really cool tree menu on the left hand column with names of resident artists and a few of their best songs, instead of that boring blue row of old battles (how useless and drab!)
The members need to make the site work for them.
Set the site up so that it's getting the music out there.....for free, if say someone looking for a 'new idea' to promote were surfing around and stumbled into bandAmp, you're going to want to throw all your best stuff at them immediately are you not? 'within the first 15 seconds' ! Not make them dig through tones of noodles and poodles and various other creations, because thay aint going to, if you ask me.
And their also not going to go through the whole reg process as well as commenting just to download a song.......well they might, but not having to is a bonus !
The problem with these idea threads is that they become discussions, and the initial idea gets lost in the views.
I like your idea, quote 'Download for free the cream of Indie music..."
But I don't think free is really what we want here. In my mind, BandAMP's purpose is not to get your music listened to. I think it's purpose is to get constructive critisiscm for your music. The point is to point out areas of improvement, to build on each other's ideas, etc. So I think that downloading free music is kind of a bonus.
I don't think that we should give out this bonus to everyone who comes in on the site off Google for five minutes. I think you should have to be a member to download songs. I also think that there should be requirements for being a member i.e actually being an active, constructive part of the community.
I don't think reviews per upload or download are as good as it needs to be. I've uploaded once and downloaded maybe three times. So I'm gonna go with my original idea, three reviews per two weeks of memberships. After two weeks, if you haven't made those mandatory reviews, out you go. That's not too much to ask, especially considering what you get for it. THe more you put in the more you're gonna get out of it.
I hope I'm not restating too much.
You are definitely right, if someone comes along looking for that new sound, they are gonna have to hear it in the first 15 seconds or so.
But they can listen to it all they want streaming, for all we care. If they can't be troubled to invest a few minutes of registering, they probably don't have anything of value to offer anyway. I think that the fact that anyone at all can download any song says about us, "We aren't really serious about this, there's no structure here, and oh yeah, there's no artist protection, either."
It feels insecure, if you ask me.
But I don't think free is really what we want here. In my mind, BandAMP's purpose is not to get your music listened to. I think it's purpose is to get constructive critisiscm for your music. The point is to point out areas of improvement, to build on each other's ideas, etc. So I think that downloading free music is kind of a bonus.
I don't think that we should give out this bonus to everyone who comes in on the site off Google for five minutes. I think you should have to be a member to download songs. I also think that there should be requirements for being a member i.e actually being an active, constructive part of the community.
I don't think reviews per upload or download are as good as it needs to be. I've uploaded once and downloaded maybe three times. So I'm gonna go with my original idea, three reviews per two weeks of memberships. After two weeks, if you haven't made those mandatory reviews, out you go. That's not too much to ask, especially considering what you get for it. THe more you put in the more you're gonna get out of it.
I hope I'm not restating too much.
You are definitely right, if someone comes along looking for that new sound, they are gonna have to hear it in the first 15 seconds or so.
But they can listen to it all they want streaming, for all we care. If they can't be troubled to invest a few minutes of registering, they probably don't have anything of value to offer anyway. I think that the fact that anyone at all can download any song says about us, "We aren't really serious about this, there's no structure here, and oh yeah, there's no artist protection, either."
It feels insecure, if you ask me.
Yeah, I would like to see downloading an option on the part of the artist. I know it cant be hard. Myspace has it as an option when you upload music so why cant we? I agree with Oldies in that we are way too laid back about our music here. We, as artist, should have more control over what happens with our stuff. Ive actually started selling copies of songs Ive posted here but if anyone ever found out they could just come here and download it for free, I would be sh*t out of luck. Which in turn makes me reluctcant to turn anyone else on to this site. Im excited about the idea of a poll. It time to start making some changes around here and with some of the conversations ive had ,with fellow members, I know there are several that agree! JIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you're uploading your music to the Internet, and someone really wants your song, the lack of a download isn't going to stop them. If you're worried about the music here being a lost stream of revenue, you should take it down now. If I submit this site to Digg, it gets popular, then your music is going to be downloaded. Nevertheless, I'd still like the option. And no, it's not that hard.
I agree, however, that the review situation is a problem. To quote Marino:
I completely disagree with this viewpoint. In fact, I think it's one of my major gripes here. I would trade every single 20 character "review" saying "good man this was cool" (OK, so that was 18 letters) I have ever gotten in all my songs for one more of the truly useful and balanced critiques I've received.
And no, I don't have time to review, because I have been too busy. I sadly have to resort to shorter reviews now because I don't have 20 minutes to spend on each review I do anymore. I used to have time over the summer to put an incredible amount of effort into a critique, and I loved that I received, on more than one occasion, PMs saying "thank you for the review". Warm, fuzzy feeling I guess. I don't want to be an ass, but I can count the people here who I think review properly---rather, who have reviewed one of my songs properly---on one hand. What's funny is, I think you know who you are. Those were the reviews which I read and learned something from.
I think that Garageband has the right idea: to get the critique, you have to contribute. I personally don't think that 5 reviews per upload is too much to ask, especially if the reviews are going to be the going rate of 25 characters. I would love to see 15 or something crazy.
At the end of the day, I don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Enough people have to want this, and I don't think that is true. Hopefully people will come around, and maybe with the great changes mud is making around here, something can get done.
I'm not making personal attacks at any one, and I really hope no one gets too upset about this.
I agree, however, that the review situation is a problem. To quote Marino:
The I've been busy excuse is a bit dated,you have time to post,you have time to review in my opinion.Even if its 3 songs a week its a least something.
I completely disagree with this viewpoint. In fact, I think it's one of my major gripes here. I would trade every single 20 character "review" saying "good man this was cool" (OK, so that was 18 letters) I have ever gotten in all my songs for one more of the truly useful and balanced critiques I've received.
And no, I don't have time to review, because I have been too busy. I sadly have to resort to shorter reviews now because I don't have 20 minutes to spend on each review I do anymore. I used to have time over the summer to put an incredible amount of effort into a critique, and I loved that I received, on more than one occasion, PMs saying "thank you for the review". Warm, fuzzy feeling I guess. I don't want to be an ass, but I can count the people here who I think review properly---rather, who have reviewed one of my songs properly---on one hand. What's funny is, I think you know who you are. Those were the reviews which I read and learned something from.
I think that Garageband has the right idea: to get the critique, you have to contribute. I personally don't think that 5 reviews per upload is too much to ask, especially if the reviews are going to be the going rate of 25 characters. I would love to see 15 or something crazy.
At the end of the day, I don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Enough people have to want this, and I don't think that is true. Hopefully people will come around, and maybe with the great changes mud is making around here, something can get done.
I'm not making personal attacks at any one, and I really hope no one gets too upset about this.
avinashv wrote…
If you're uploading your music to the Internet, and someone really wants your song, the lack of a download isn't going to stop them. If you're worried about the music here being a lost stream of revenue, you should take it down now. If I submit this site to Digg, it gets popular, then your music is going to be downloaded. Nevertheless, I'd still like the option. And no, it's not that hard.
I agree, however, that the review situation is a problem. To quote Marino:
The I've been busy excuse is a bit dated,you have time to post,you have time to review in my opinion.Even if its 3 songs a week its a least something.
I completely disagree with this viewpoint. In fact, I think it's one of my major gripes here. I would trade every single 20 character "review" saying "good man this was cool" (OK, so that was 18 letters) I have ever gotten in all my songs for one more of the truly useful and balanced critiques I've received.
And no, I don't have time to review, because I have been too busy. I sadly have to resort to shorter reviews now because I don't have 20 minutes to spend on each review I do anymore. I used to have time over the summer to put an incredible amount of effort into a critique, and I loved that I received, on more than one occasion, PMs saying "thank you for the review". Warm, fuzzy feeling I guess. I don't want to be an ass, but I can count the people here who I think review properly---rather, who have reviewed one of my songs properly---on one hand. What's funny is, I think you know who you are. Those were the reviews which I read and learned something from.
I think that Garageband has the right idea: to get the critique, you have to contribute. I personally don't think that 5 reviews per upload is too much to ask, especially if the reviews are going to be the going rate of 25 characters. I would love to see 15 or something crazy.
At the end of the day, I don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Enough people have to want this, and I don't think that is true. Hopefully people will come around, and maybe with the great changes mud is making around here, something can get done.
I'm not making personal attacks at any one, and I really hope no one gets too upset about this.
Avi i think you misunderstood,your are a pretty active members and we all get busy and take breaks.My view point addresses something different more like a hit a and run sort of speak
but thx for the quote I feel special now! I would also like to address the "if someone wants to download your music they will". Thats true, but not everyone has the know how to do that. And it will atleast make it more difficult than just clicking a button labled "download me, Im free". And just a quick jibe, Avi..... In the time it took you to write the two paragraphs above you could've reviewed atleast 3 songs! LOL! But on a serious note, you are telling me that you couldnt review 3 songs a week!!!! Are you kidding? You are telling me you dont have 5 mins to spare every other day? Im sorry, I know you are busy but that is pretty extreme.
I disagree with a mandatory review-per-week thing. I've been less active for a while because of things, following the system I would've been kicked off bandamp a few months back. That's by all means, utterly ridiculous. Besides, how about people going on holidays for a few weeks? What if someone wants to go backpacking for a few MONTHS? Bad idea! Let's remain casual about memberships. Maybe, just maybe, and only if it's REALLY necessary, we could "kick" members who have been inactive for like 6 months AND never added much in the first place.
Another bad idea is the non-download for non-members. What if I want to share my music with someone I just met, I just give the bandamp address and allow the download.. Wouldn't want to require the person in question to set up an account. Seriously.
Good idea: the optional download. Maybe make it like this: option 1= download is free, 2= download allowed for members only, 3= music is streaming only.
I really wouldn't want to see bandamp turn in an "exclusive" site that puts lots of requirements to it's members at all.
Another bad idea is the non-download for non-members. What if I want to share my music with someone I just met, I just give the bandamp address and allow the download.. Wouldn't want to require the person in question to set up an account. Seriously.
Good idea: the optional download. Maybe make it like this: option 1= download is free, 2= download allowed for members only, 3= music is streaming only.
I really wouldn't want to see bandamp turn in an "exclusive" site that puts lots of requirements to it's members at all.
PuppetXeno wrote…
I disagree with a mandatory review-per-week thing. I've been less active for a while because of things, following the system I would've been kicked off bandamp a few months back. That's by all means, utterly ridiculous. Besides, how about people going on holidays for a few weeks? What if someone wants to go backpacking for a few MONTHS? Bad idea! Let's remain casual about memberships. Maybe, just maybe, and only if it's REALLY necessary, we could "kick" members who have been inactive for like 6 months AND never added much in the first place.
I too would disagree with a mandatory per week count, or two week, If that was the case, Spoon would have been booted out a loong time ago.. She Joined in 2003, but didn't become active until 2006. Then she hosted the 2007 North American Bandamp get together at her home. So, I think that is a BAD idea... I like Marino's thinking that in a week, you probably could at least do 3 reviews, no matter how busy you are, This is true.. But at the same time, yes, there are those who honestly just can't for a while, but they also aren't uploading music or anything to the site..Some folks will also do this little trick, The 2 word post good stuff, or this rocks, then they post on their own song a separate post for each post they have recieved, to comment back to them, this counts towards their requirement, so now they can upload much more stuff. eventually they are barely contributing to onyones stuff, but their own songs. I am not sure if it's really feasable to filter out posts to one's own song or not. .. I am in total agreement about the optional download, that would be nice. As for the non-member download, this is interesting. On one hand, I like the idea of limiting all downloading to members only, not so much to make it exclusive but just to make them work for it a bit, and hopefully, they will become a full contributing member of the site through this. Streaming should ALWAYS be for all eyes, and, we can even have a download of the week type thing, for all people, even nonmembers.
And as for Polling, We were discussing this in Chat last night. And yes I am in agreement. If it wasn't for Polling, we wouldn't have JBP, so Polling is a great country, and the polish people are very nice, so I don't want to hear any polish jokes, like "How many polish people does it take to screw in a lightbulb" Two, the trick is getting them inside the lightbulb" or anything like that...... OK, seriously, Yes, polls to vote on the upgrades should be very easy to add on to the system. And would be a good idea, this way it becomes the site as a whole that decides the fate of many of the design ideas...
JimK
Marino: I know you weren't directing that at me personally, but I was using my own example to refute your point.
Minds: No, I sometimes don't have time for three reviews a week, because, as I said, I don't like to spend such little time on my reviews. 15 to 20 minutes is a long time, and with the little free time I have, I like to spend it on other things, as much as I love this place.
I agree about the weekly review requirement being a bad idea---I just see it getting out of hand with people getting kicked and what not. I think what will happen again is that this will just remain ideas?
How about creating some sort of incentive system? People can vote monthly on a bunch of things like:
- Best new song of the month
- Best review of the month
- Best new lyrics of the month
I guess that covers everything? Winner could get a customized Bandamp gift or something like from the following:
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&no=37
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&no=203
etc. etc.
Depending on how much it works out with and shipping costs etc. I'd be willing to sponsor the first month's prizes. I know pap had a similar prize idea, but I don't know if that is going to happen, and furthermore, no one has to commit to manual labor here.
Minds: No, I sometimes don't have time for three reviews a week, because, as I said, I don't like to spend such little time on my reviews. 15 to 20 minutes is a long time, and with the little free time I have, I like to spend it on other things, as much as I love this place.
I agree about the weekly review requirement being a bad idea---I just see it getting out of hand with people getting kicked and what not. I think what will happen again is that this will just remain ideas?
How about creating some sort of incentive system? People can vote monthly on a bunch of things like:
- Best new song of the month
- Best review of the month
- Best new lyrics of the month
I guess that covers everything? Winner could get a customized Bandamp gift or something like from the following:
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&no=37
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&no=203
etc. etc.
Depending on how much it works out with and shipping costs etc. I'd be willing to sponsor the first month's prizes. I know pap had a similar prize idea, but I don't know if that is going to happen, and furthermore, no one has to commit to manual labor here
.Well, I certainly like where this conversation is going. Im glad that jim is onboard with the polling. (funny guy, Jim) I think if we are truly to adopt the spirit of 'community ownership' then it is mandatory that we are able to hear from the community. That way no one is accused of power trips, etc. I, also, dissagree with the review per week idea. (See PuppetXeno's reasoning). If we want to clean house a bit, we could even do something like no activity per so many months. Like no post no reviews for a year or 6 months. I like Avi's idea of an incentive program. But I think the most effective way to increase reviews (which is what started all this talk) is required reviewing per upload (and maybe download, as well). Make post on your own music not count as well as any reviews lower than say 15 words or so?
Yeah, I think that increasing the amount required to upload more music is the way to go and maybe a 50 or 100 character minimum for posting in the audio forum?
I think that way, it's best for everyone. It's not forcing anyone to review, but if they want to post, they have to contribute their opinions.
Also, I have a suggestion to the "reviewing your own songs don't count" idea. On Newgrounds, the author of the song can't review their own music, but they can write responses to each review. Also, leaving a review requires leaving a rating out of 10, which everyone can see. maybe that can be applied here, when you review, you can't continue until you vote, and once you do, everyone can see your vote.
I think that way, it's best for everyone. It's not forcing anyone to review, but if they want to post, they have to contribute their opinions.
Also, I have a suggestion to the "reviewing your own songs don't count" idea. On Newgrounds, the author of the song can't review their own music, but they can write responses to each review. Also, leaving a review requires leaving a rating out of 10, which everyone can see. maybe that can be applied here, when you review, you can't continue until you vote, and once you do, everyone can see your vote.
i think..if your going to review at least do it without the pressure of doing it! 
cos its really important to give an honest review instead of a quicky..lol..but anyhows..i am on here in spits and spurts.. but when am on... am on...!!!! and i love to listen and rate and give credit to where its due....but... on the other hand...minds..your right... babysitting song service lol.. 
I actually thought tho.. i had to review a certian amount of songs before i could upload mp3s anyway.. am i right there then?
cos its really important to give an honest review instead of a quicky..lol..but anyhows..i am on here in spits and spurts.. but when am on... am on...!!!! and i love to listen and rate and give credit to where its due....but... on the other hand...minds..your right... babysitting song service lol.. I actually thought tho.. i had to review a certian amount of songs before i could upload mp3s anyway.. am i right there then?Only the first time, Pagan. 3 reviews for the first upload and I dont think it would be excessive to simply make it 3 reviews per upload on every upload. Reviews make the world go round on this site, So I dont think it too much to ask that if you want to be part of a reviewing site community that you review as well. I agree with the pressure comment. There shouldnt be any pressure and there wouldnt be. Dont review dont upload (or download), simple pimple!
yes point taken! thanx for telling me about the first time on reviews..thing is..i like to review.i like to comment it helps to bring the best out of us.i am on your side completely..reviews are important to us ..its a community on here after all..so 3 reviews per upload...minimum..id go along with that!...yeahhhhh..xxxx
I am dumbstruck! Even as this convesation persist people drop off their stuff to be babysat! I almost want to call them out by name but that wouldnt be very civilized would it. I hope those of you that do read this and take it to heart will inflict the only means of checks and balances we have and simply refuse to review those who dont join in the community spirit. I know that sounds harsh but I know from talking to you that several of you agree. With the coding up in the air right now (from what I can tell) there is no telling when any new ideas will be implemented so until then its up to us to keep things fair. If I didnt have the reviews to back up what I say I would shut straight up, but I have atleast 7 reviews to 1 upload! I dont ask that people do that much but come on! DO ONE! CAN WE GET A 1 TO 1 RATIO, ATLEAST!?
Seriously, I have no means of verifying this, but I am quite sure it's a 3 reviews to 1 upload ratio already. Not just the initial upload, but all subsequent uploads too. I am tempted to make a test account and go check this out.
The only thing that needs to be fixed is a system that makes comments to one's own thread not count, and possibly a mandatory rating upon commenting.
The only thing that needs to be fixed is a system that makes comments to one's own thread not count, and possibly a mandatory rating upon commenting.
Hmmm... I guess i never thought of it, Puppet. Ive always been ahead I suppose as far as reviews are concerned. I suppose that means that you store up reviews... hmmm. Yeah it would be cool to have this verified. If thats the case then we have to reanalyze this whole thing. There has to be a way to increase reviews without making it an excessive review requirement or holding a gun to their head... And do general post count? Surely not, but I had to ask.... I agree with the mandatory rating but there has to be something more we can do...
PX wrote…
Seriously, I have no means of verifying this, but I am quite sure it's a 3 reviews to 1 upload ratio already. Not just the initial upload, but all subsequent uploads too. I am tempted to make a test account and go check this out.
And I believe that any posts count as 'posts'.??
I thought it might! Another thing to fix....
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Why do we even have battle every month? Its totally insane....only 5-6 songs have had the amount of votes that it takes to qualify it takes to qualify...this in my opinoin is a insult to many a great songs and to the artist who have posted some very good songs...Just do away with the battles....it makes no sense to even have thems turned out to be a joke and a shame.....
Flyer
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Well, there is talk of making "rating" mandatory, Ralph. But even if that were the case the battle is broken. I think its important to have it as a part of the amp... I know at one point is was a big 'spur' for me to keep making new music... Ive boycotted it since. But once its up and running the way it should and we make rating mandatory, I think we'll see a resurgence in the importance of battles!
Alright at the behest of Marino, i entered my song into the battle... guess it cant hurt anything. Hope you guys wont think me too much of a hyprocrit..
MindsAtPlay wrote…
Alright at the behest of Marino, i entered my song into the battle... guess it cant hurt anything. Hope you guys wont think me too much of a hyprocrit..
No worries, it isn't broken though, it's just noone is voting because they lost faith in it because it was, and some like you, still think it is, but SlasherX fixed it month ago, and posted a message confirming it... but that's ok, because it is all going to be cleaned up and revamped soon anyway...
JimK
Well that IS GREAT news! Now I dont feel so bad about entering my latest tune!!! Thanks Jim, I must have missed the post about it. I guess last I heard was that it was going to take some effort to fix it... Anyway, thanks again!
hmm cool thread but i do have some questions though.. one of the earlier post mentioned that you should have to do so many reviews within a certain time frame.. I find myself only having just a few minutes a day to check out the site now.. I try to partake in forum discussions .. most of my decent speakers or headphones are not here at this computer.. do you want me to review your songs thru my little crappy computer speakers,.. this is temporary though soon I will have my stuff back over here.. so I haven't been reviewing.. this will be longer than two weeks so I guess i would have to go.. also my band goes on the road I am gone for awhile and won't be on the computer at all unless I buy a laptop and wifi .. I would have to go.. cause i didn't review any songs..
people come and go in this kinda stuff.. me included .. I want to review but right now I am not even on the computer but maybe once a week or twice a week and usually to check emails and i just click in for a minute to check on band amp .. if I can squeze in the time to post to something I will. if I have time to listen I will.
but there is no way I have time to listen to every song posted everyday every time.. So I guess I have to go. '
is that the way you want this site to be.. it should be open to everybody and let them choose the level of commitment to this site.. you will always have the few that get plugged in, and then some that post a song or post once then you never see them again. that is the nature of the people and the internet..
if things fall apart band wise for me then I will be back on here reviewing my ass off and posting reviews and i will try to find the time to listen when I can. but right now my job is running me from 5:00 am till 6 or 7:pm and then I have the band thing and I am getting married so we have been planning that too. If uploads are stored to the amount of reviews I would still have quite a few songs I could upload ..
people come and go in this kinda stuff.. me included .. I want to review but right now I am not even on the computer but maybe once a week or twice a week and usually to check emails and i just click in for a minute to check on band amp .. if I can squeze in the time to post to something I will. if I have time to listen I will.
but there is no way I have time to listen to every song posted everyday every time.. So I guess I have to go. '
is that the way you want this site to be.. it should be open to everybody and let them choose the level of commitment to this site.. you will always have the few that get plugged in, and then some that post a song or post once then you never see them again. that is the nature of the people and the internet..
if things fall apart band wise for me then I will be back on here reviewing my ass off and posting reviews and i will try to find the time to listen when I can. but right now my job is running me from 5:00 am till 6 or 7:pm and then I have the band thing and I am getting married so we have been planning that too. If uploads are stored to the amount of reviews I would still have quite a few songs I could upload ..
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