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#1February 11th, 2006 · 09:15 PM
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144 posts
New Zealand
EducatedGuess
Seven
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Seven
Thanks for everyone's kind words on Seven a while back This is the revised version, which, as many people will agree, sound a million times better. Complete with E-Bow near the end Sorry about the gap at the start, I could be bothered deleting it.

ENJOY!

- Chester
#2February 11th, 2006 · 09:56 PM
117 threads / 55 songs
1,540 posts
Chile
Just brilliant. As I said before and will say forever, you are great man.
Love your music, so please keep composing, cause I want to listen more... In fact, your music inspired me to make a song in your style, but that will never be as good as the worst of your song.
Lovely and emotive song.

     > Iszil
#3February 11th, 2006 · 10:10 PM
121 threads / 56 songs
3,098 posts
Netherlands
yes, this sounds pretty crisp

and it's a beautiful song, can't argue with it...

The ebow is great. maybe just a slight bit too loud though, as it is a pretty invasive sound, fights with the vocals for dominance.

but it's a beautiful track.
#4February 12th, 2006 · 06:59 AM
So basically, I made an account here just so I could tell you how amazing your music is.  I absolutely love it...and this re-recording just made my day.

Oh - I've been trying to get a hold of you via email and PM...check it out.

Once again, beautiful stuff.  Keep up the good work!
#5February 12th, 2006 · 04:05 PM
6 threads / 5 songs
72 posts
United States of America
Beatiful song... E-Bow definitely adds to the artistry.  Production-wise, I'd recommend notching the vocal volume down a bit throughout the song, as they seem much louder than the arpeggios and chords. 
Also, you sing very "breath-heavy", which I think you pull off better than others who do.  It works well in this gentle song, but you do end up with a lot of inhale noises before your vocal lines start, which can be distracting. 
I should add that these are faiirly nit-picky comments, and that I enjoyed this song very much.  Thanks!
#6February 12th, 2006 · 04:15 PM
160 threads / 88 songs
1,666 posts
United States of America
ok, that settles it, I have to get an Ebow....   lol

    wonderful job... definite improvement from the original...  I think you should use this as a demo and send it off to as many labels as you can....  seriously...   

   what are you still doing here?   get your butt in gear... hurry up and mail it!!

            geez...   your still here?   I guess you don't want to succeed...  fine...  don't listen to               
            me...   do what you want.....          

                                JimK
#7February 12th, 2006 · 10:10 PM
48 threads / 41 songs
144 posts
New Zealand
Thanks everyone!

Yeah, puppet, I definitely feel the eBow gets too overpowering when I start singing. Starts off well I think though.

And as for what you said, yeahigotadayjob, I'm right this minute trying to take out as many of those breaths as I can. They are really annoying.

- Chester
#8February 12th, 2006 · 10:25 PM
177 threads / 27 songs
2,345 posts
United Kingdom
re: Seven
beautiful song.................well produced..............ive seen comments and agree with most...........perhaps needs a stronger 'hook' to support the song........ developed around the title----------thats a lyrics thing--------seven is a strong word but doesnt get 'drilled' ..................u could call the song 'turn and move' with more relevance to the lyric.

v nice..............voted

constructive i hope

splash
#9February 13th, 2006 · 01:25 AM
48 threads / 41 songs
144 posts
New Zealand
Hey swordfish. I have a real personal problem with hooks. They piss me off to no end in songs. When people constantly repeat something. I find there's a much larger level of sophistication when you don't have to tell the listener which part of the song to remember. As for the title, I'm a big fan of songs that have almost irrelevant titles there's this amazing song by Ani Difranco called Serpentine, where the word is only said once. Even songs like Good Riddance by greenday! It's their most famous song and the title isn't even mentioned in the song.

I can totally understand your views on hooks. But I think when it comes to my hatred of pop it boils down to the fact that there is just too much focus on drilling that lyrical or melodic hook. I want people to be able to listen to a song of mine over and over and just choose what to remember. I'm not sure if i'm being clear. Oh well :P

Thank you though!

- Chester
#10February 13th, 2006 · 04:59 AM
6 threads / 5 songs
72 posts
United States of America
Interesting discussion on "hooks".  I agree that they can be overused, but I think that not using them at all can be just as... well, choose the adjective you wish. 

In this particular song, I don't necessarily think a "hook" is necessary.

In general, however, I think that a great deal of artistry is in the practice of coming up with a hook that does not ruin the integrity of the song (as EducatedGuess appropriately points out).

Take these two examples - mainly because they were the first two examples I could think of in less than a minute 

1.  "Immigrant Song" by Led Zeppelin.  At no point in the song do they say the title phrase.  The "hook" in the song is Robert Plant screaming "Ah ye ah... Ah!" over and over again.  Certainly, this is not what he (lyrically) is hoping people get from the song.  Yet I guarantee that I would hear it on the local radio station tomorrow, should I choose to listen.

2.  More obscurely, "Aneurysm" by Nirvana... The word is never uttered.  The hook is a twice occurring instrumental buildup, once at the beginning and once at the end. 

IMHO, these are both fantastic songs.  One (Immigrant) is fairly clear in lyrical content, the other not so much so.  But they both offer a musical hook that does not detract from the theme. 

All that aside, it's a song-to-song and artist-to-artist call.  Just thought I'd throw the "Compromise" theory out there for fodder.
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