Ok. I'm abandoning this thread. Just in terms of the naivity comment, I highly suggest you study up on philosophy of art and aesthetics, and in a few years get back to me about "naive". Disagreement is fine, but you are talking to a person who has spent years of his life studying  aesthetics and music, and although my opinions might strike you as narrow minded, I think you are judging matters too quickly. I think if you carefully re-read my posts in a day or two, you might find that I am being much less narrow minded than you are accusing me of.